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Writer-director Jonathan Glazer refuses to be drawn
into making comparisons with other Holocaust screen depictions and his new
film The Zone of Interest.
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“I don’t like getting involved in a genocide-off,”
he told Giles Harvey of The New York
Times, commenting on repeated attempts by
the press to get him to talk about why he felt his approach differs from the
likes of Schindler’s List, Son of Saul or the
documentary Shoah.
He went on to clarify that his decision to tackle this highly sensitive subject was rooted in his family history. Glazer’s grandparents were Eastern European Jews who fled the Russian Empire in the early 20th century. He also went to a Jewish state school in London.
The British director had not yet finished Under
the Skin in 2013 when he told his longtime producer, James Wilson,
about his idea for the next project.
“He did not want to do another, quote-unquote,
‘Holocaust movie.’ Jon has a very small filter when it comes to doing something
that’s never been done before,” Wilson told Rolling Stone’s David Fear.
“But neither of us knew what that something would be.”
Glazer’s idea was galvanized in 2014
by reading about the latest novel by the late Martin Amis, a story told from
the viewpoint of a fictional Nazi commandant who ran and lived next door to a
concentration camp in Nazi Germany.
In Amis’ book, the Dolls family was
loosely based on Rudolf Höss, the real-life commandant of Auschwitz, and his
family. Glazer’s first big call was to revert to the originals. Before starting
work on the script, he spent two years researching them, during which he came
across a staggering data point: The garden of their villa shared a wall with
the camp. What feats of denial, he wondered, would it have taken to live in
such proximity to the damned?
“I wanted to dismantle the idea of them as
anomalies, as almost supernatural. I wanted to show that these were crimes
committed by Mr. and Mrs. Smith at No. 26,” he told the NYT.
“I looked at the darkening world around us, and had
a feeling I had to do something about our similarities to the perpetrators
rather than the victims,” Glazer elaborated to Rolling Stone. “When
you say, ‘They were monsters,’ you’re also saying: ‘That could never be us.’
Which is a very dangerous mindset.”
Instead, he began to see the Hösses
as “non-thinking, bourgeois, aspirational-careerist horrors” who’d simply
normalized evil.
The production goal was an immersive naturalism, and Glazer went to great lengths pursuing it, telling Vanity Fair’s David Canfield that he sought to “remove the artifice and conventions of filmmaking that lead you down a road which didn’t feel relevant here: screen psychology. The way that cinema fetishizes, glamorizes, empowers—in this context, none of those were appropriate.”
Instead, as Fear notes in Rolling Stone, The Zone of Interest uses suggestion and sound — what Glazer refers to as “ambient evil” — to conjure up how human beings could look upon the methodical killing of other human beings as background noise in their lives rather than a profound tragedy.“The Zone of
Production designer Chris Oddy built a recreation of the Höss home at Auschwitz rigged with 10 hidden cameras that would roll simultaneously.
“Cinema is at odds with atrocity,” he explained to
the NYT. “As soon as you put a camera on someone, as soon as you
light them, or make a decision about what lens to use, you’re glamorizing
them.”
Cinematographer Łukasz Żal (Ida and Cold War) made some initial studies of the house. Glazer told him they were “too beautiful.” He wanted the images to seem “authorless.”
The two-time Oscar-nominated Polish DP explained
to John Boone at Aframe, “You have to forget completely all the tricks
you’re carrying with you as a cinematographer and all your knowledge and
everything you were taught in your career. The whole idea of this film was just
to put the cameras in the places where you can see what is happening in the
most objective way, and that’s it. Very simple.”
This method gave the actors – principally Christian
Friedel (Babylon Berlin) as Rudolf and Sandra Hüller (Anatomy of a
Fall) as his wife, Hedwig — the freedom to improvise; they were often
unaware if the cameras were even rolling.
Hidden Cameras
“There was nobody on set [except] the actors,” Żal
informed Aframe. He remotely monitored from a shipping container
outside the house. “The actors were just living their lives, and because we had
10 setups at the same time and were shooting everything, after one or two hours
we had all the setups we needed. We had continuous action, and the sun was
changing, the light was changing, the clouds were coming and going, the dog was
running through the house, and everything was captured on the 10 cameras.”
Sony VENICE cameras were partly
chosen because they could have their lenses detached from the camera body in
order to be able to hide them all over the set, including in the garden, which
is the Höss’s pride and joy.
“The whole idea was to create a space for actors to
just be there, be in the situation and for us to witness with no interruption,”
Żal told fellow DP Mandy Walker in an interview for the ASC.
“We were able to attach those cameras to the walls, hide them in cardboard, in
the bushes, try and cover them with fabric. We’re just placing them in a
different spaces in the garden, in the house. Everything was hardwired. The
five focus pullers were in the basement of house, and we were in the shipping
container behind the wall. That was our mission control and we were just
shooting the whole scene without interruption, continuously.”
The film intersperses the desaturated color of the
Höss family life with stark black and white footage of a girl leaving apples in
a work camp for the Jewish prisoners. This effect was captured at night using a
special thermal imaging camera, as Żal explained to Vanity Fair.
“We
spent a lot of time adjusting this for filming in terms of focus and image and
also software, because It’s not so easy to use this camera and get the image we
would like to have.”
Glazer explains that the camera is
recording heat, not light, adding, “there’s something very beautiful and poetic
about the fact that it is heat, and she does glow. It reinforces the idea of
her as an energy.”
In post they used an algorithm to
upgrade the resolution from lowly 1K to 4K and to match as well as they could
with the 6K resolution footage from the VENICE.
The Sound of
Murder
While the visuals deliberately
refrain from showing the inside of the extermination camp, the audience is not
spared the harrowing sounds emanating from behind the wall. Neither are the
Hösses, even though for them life seems to continue as normal.
Sound designer Johnnie Burn recalls to Aframe the
original directive from Glazer. “He said, ‘It is going to be mandatory that we
don’t go in the camp, and we don’t see the atrocities. We’re going to just hear
them. It will all be sound.’ I panicked. I started reeling, because I realized
that would be a leap of faith. And also, where are we going to get the sounds
from? Jon said, ‘Well, that’s what you’re going to figure out.’”
Burn compiled a 600-page research document and spent the year before filming began and throughout the shoot and into post-production building the sound library with his team. According to Aframe, he recorded the industrial rumble of textile workshops and incinerators, boots marching on gravel, period-accurate gunfire, and death itself.
“It’s the sound of murder, and it has
to be credible but we didn’t want to be sensational,” Burn said. “Anything
sensationalized in the sound wouldn’t work, so understanding the difference
between someone acting pain and actually being in pain at point of death,
that’s to do with literally the cadence of the way people scream.”
The idea was to create an immersive experience
where performances were able to transform into people going about their daily
routines, and the cast was free not only to explore the environments but lean
into boring, mundane everyday life — a contrast to the horror literally
happening outside their backyard.
“Some takes were up to 45 minutes,” Sandra Hüller told Rolling Stone. “You didn’t know what was being filmed from what angle, or from where. The crew and monitors were in a separate building, so if they didn’t tell us to cut, we’d just restart a scene and it would end up being completely different.”
It was a concept that Glazer hoped to
make explicit with the film’s ending, in which viewers are momentarily dropped
into Auschwitz in the 21st century — a flash-forward that the director says
came from his experience wandering around the grounds one morning and noticing
the cleaning crew picking up litter and vacuuming in front of the exhibits.
“It was like they were tending
graves,” Glazer says. “You know, Höss is long gone. He is ash. But the museum,
and the importance of such museums, they are still there.”
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